(2022-11-17) Plex16 November2022

Plex 16 November 2022.

Community Wisdom Gardening Co-Debrief by Peter Kaminski and Charles Blass

toward a pattern of easy fun generative and efficient wisdom-reporting that we hope to do and see more of.

This is lightly edited recap of our co-debrief.

The body of the call was really rich, and really deep. There's a lot there. The thing that I'm attracted to right now, is to do kind of a meta-debrief: How did the call go? How are we going to compost?

One of the things I've been reflecting on and carrying forward is that in terms of the choreography I had intended, designed, woven together, it ended up being literally backwards, because of the various logistics and mishaps, which are natural and human

I need to shine a light on the walk-in star, which was Ward Cunningham... Talking a lot as he does, but no question, brilliant and captivating. So he kind of ended up stealing the show, and I basically let him. I egged him on mostly, and it was just like that in the second part.

And then there was a good moment that happened much later. George Por made an impassioned plea for C-work, something like: “This is it! We got to do this!” So he’s on the program and he's tweeting Christina Engelbart out there, and where is she? I don't know, I haven't seen her yet.

I thought it was really interesting that you kind of set up the whole thing around Douglas Engelbart. It felt smart, or grounded, or something like that to kind of go back to a really important source.

So, harvesting. How's that gonna work? This was a rich call, there was a lot of stuff in it. And I know it can be tempting to just... move on, rather than harvest. Do you have a plan? Do we have a plan?

I can see you think of it as an ongoing conversation, with different interlocking, related projects, with different sizes and kinds containers. That makes a lot more sense to me.

there was another metaphor that had come up in an earlier I Ching reading, which was the image of the Well, or Fountain.

The Well metaphor may be better than the community garden, even though I'm still compelled with my naive, simpleton sort of take on Engelbart, in “the twins” of Dynamic Knowledge Repository and Networked Improvement Community.

Quick Takes by Jack Park

Mattermost - any version: CSC is well tended and gardened, but it's still a loooong way from what a good Collective Intelligence platform can be. It's totally clueless, as is Slack, about the nature of threads and truly meaty conversations (quests).

CSC Mastodon Resources by Peter Kaminski

We will keep Mastodon on our long-term roadmap, but at present, there is no dearth of instances for you to choose from. CSC can save its resources for tools that are less well-represented – currently Mattermost, and we're looking at Gitea, and HedgeDoc (an open source version of HackMD) to replace our aging Etherpad server, MeetingWords.